DRAFT DISCUSSION THREAD!

[Kimmel]

As of Sept 15, 1984 the active available promotions are:

AMERICAN WRESTLING ASSOCIATION

PROMOTER:
PROMOTION: ILLINOIS, WISCONSON, MINNESOTA
ANNOUNCERS: KEN RESNICK, LORD JAMES BLEARS, ROD TRODGARD, RODGER KENT
REFEREES: GARY DERUSHA, MARTY MILLER, SCOTT LEDUX,

AWA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION: RICK MARTEL
AWA WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS: THE ROAD WARRIORS

Wrestlers: Curt Hennig, Nick Bockwinkel, Rick Martel, Road Warrior Hawk, Road Warrior Animal
Managers:


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CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING FROM FLORIDA
PROMOTER:
PROMOTING: FLORIDA
ANNOUNCERS: JOHN HEATH, GORDON SOLIE, RICH LANDRUM
REFEREES: STU SCHWARTZ, BILL ALFONSO, CHARLIE LAYE

SOUTHERN HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION- KEVIN SULLIVAN
UNITED STATES TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS- CHAVO AND HECTOR GUERRERO
FLORIDA HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION- SCOTT MCGHEE

Wrestlers: Dusty Rhodes, Chavo Guerrero, Hector Guerrero, Kevin Sullivan, Scott McGhee
Managers:

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CENTRAL STATES WRESTLING
PROMOTER:
PROMOTING: COLORADO, KANSAS, MISSOURI,
ANNOUNCERS: LARRY MATYSIK, KEVIN WALL, RICK STEWART
REFEREES:

CENTRAL STATES CHAMPION- BUZZ TYLER
CENTRAL STATES TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS- THE UPTOWN BOYS (MARTY JANNETTY AND TOMMY LANE)
CENTRAL STATES TV CHAMPION- BUZZ TYLER
MISSOURI CHAMPION- HARLEY RACE

Wrestlers: Buzz Tyler, Harley Race, Jerry "Crusher" Blackwell, Marty Jannetty, Tommy Lane
Managers:


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CONTINENTAL WRESTLING ASSOCIATION
PROMOTER:
PROMOTING: KENTUCKY, TENNESSEE
ANNOUNCERS: DAVE BROWN, LANCE RUSSEL
REFEREES: PAUL MORTON, JERRY CALLHOUN, PAUL NEIGHBORS


SOUTHERN HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION- KING KONG BUNDY
SOUTHERN TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS- DUTCH MANTELL AND TOMMY RICH
INTERNATIONAL HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION- EDDIE GILBERT

Wrestlers: Dutch Mantell, Eddie Gilbert, Jerry "The King" Lawler, King Kong Bundy, Tommy "Wildfire" Rich
Managers:


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INTERNATIONAL WRESTLING ASSOCIATION
PROMOTER:
PROMOTING: ONTARIO, QUEBEC
ANNOUNCERS: MILT AVRUSKIN, BILLY RED LYONS, BILL MCCULLOUGH
REFEREES:

INTERNATIONAL CHAMPION: DINO BRAVO
INTERNATIONAL TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS: SAILOR WHITE AND KERRY BROWN

Wrestlers: Dino Bravo, Jacques Rougeau, Kerry Brown, Sailor White, Raymond Rougeau
Managers:


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MID SOUTH WRESTLING
PROMOTER:
PROMOTING: ARKANSAS, LOUISIANA, OKLAHOMA
ANNOUNCERS: BOYD PIERCE, BILL WATTS, JIM ROSS
REFEREES: ALFRED NEELY, JERRY USHER, JOEL ARMSTRONG

NORTH AMERICAN CHAMPION- MAGNUM TA
MID SOUTH TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS: THE MIDNIGHT EXPRESS (BOBBY EATON AND DENNIS CONDREY)
MID SOUTH TELEVISION CHAMPION: TERRY TAYLOR

Wrestlers: Bobby Eaton, Dennis Condrey, Junkyard Dog, Magnum TA, Terry Taylor
Managers:


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NATIONAL WRESTLING ALLIANCE
PROMOTER:
PROMOTING: GEORGIA, NORTH CAROLINA, SOUTH CAROLINA, WEST VIRGINIA, VIRGINIA
ANNOUNCERS: BOB CAUDLE, TONY SCHAVONIE, DAVID CROCKETT
REFEREES: TOMMY YOUNG, SCRAPPY MCGOWN, NICK PATRICK

NWA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION: "NATURE BOY" RIC FLAIR
NWA WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS: DON KERNODLE AND IVAN KOLOFF
UNITED STATES HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION: VACANT
WORLD TELEVISION CHAMPION: TULLY BLANCHARD

Wrestlers: Don Kerndole, Ivan Koloff, Ric Flair, Ricky Steamboat, Tully Blanchard,
Managers:


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PACIFIC NORTHWEST WRESTLING
PROMOTER:
PROMOTING: OREGON AND WASHINGTON STATE
ANNOUNCERS: DON COSS, DUTCH SAVAGE,
REFEREES: SANDY BARR, SHAG THOMAS, LUKE BROWN

PNW CHAMPION: RIP OLIVER
PNW TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS: TOM PRICHARD AND BRETT SAWYER

Wrestlers: Billy Jack Haynes, Brett Sawyer, Buddy Rose, Rip Oliver, Tom Prichard
Managers:


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SOUTHEASTERN CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING
PROMOTER:
PROMOTING: ALABAMA, MISSISSIPPI
ANNOUNCERS: CHARLIE PLATT, LES THATCHER, FREDDIE MILLER
REFEREES: RON WEST, BOBBY SIMMONS, MAC MURRAY

SOUTHEASTERN CHAMPION: MR. WRESTLING II
SOUTHEASTERN TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS: ARN ANDERSON AND PAT ROSE
ALABAMA CHAMPION: PORKCHOP CASH

Wrestlers: Arn Anderson, Bob "The Bullet" Armstrong, Mr. Wrestling II, Pat Rose, Porkchop Cash
Managers:


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STAMPEDE PRO WRESTLING
PROMOTER:
PROMOTING: WESTERN CANADA
ANNOUNCERS: ED WHALEN
REFEREES:

NORTH AMERICAN CHAMPION- DAVEY BOY SMITH
NORTH AMERICAN TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS: DAVEY BOY SMITH AND DYNAMITE KID
BRITISH COLOMBIAN CHAMPION- BRUCE HART

Wrestlers: Bad News Allen, Bret Hart, Bruce Hart, Davey Boy Smith, Dynamite Kid
Managers:


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WORLD CLASS CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING
PROMOTER:
PROMOTING: TEXAS
ANNOUNCERS: BILL MERCER, STEVE STACKS, MARC LOWRANCE
REFEREES: BRONKO LUBICH, DAVID MANNING, RICK HAZZARD

AMERICAN HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION: GINO HERNANDEZ
AMERICAN TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS: ROCK N SOUL (BUCK ZUMHOFE AND ICEMAN KING PARSONS)
TEXAS HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION: GINO HERNANDEZ

Wrestlers: Buck Zumhofe, Gino Hernandez, Iceman King Parsons, Kerry Von Erich, Kevin Von Erich
Managers:



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WORLD WRESTLING ALLIANCE:
PROMOTER:
PROMOTING: INDIANA, MICHIGAN, OHIO
ANNOUNCERS: JACK REYNOLDS, LORD ALFRED HAYES, TERRY SULLIVAN
REFEREES: CONNIE MARKER, JOHNNY SHRON, RALPH HAMILTON

WWA WORLD CHAMPION: GREG WOJOWSKI
WWA TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS: THE WILD WARRIORS (MADD MAXX AND SUPER MAXX)

Wrestlers: Dick The Bruiser, Greg Wojowski, Madd Maxx, Spike Huber, Super Maxx
Managers:


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WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION
PROMOTER:
PROMOTING: NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, PENNSYLVANIA, OHIO, MASSACHUSETTS, VERMONT, MAINE, CONNECTICUT, RHODE ISLAND
ANNOUNCERS: VINCE MCMAHON, GORILLA MONSOON, JESSE "THE BODY" VENTURA, "MEAN GENE OKERLUND
REFEREES: EARL HEBNER, JOEY MARELLA, DICK KROLL

WWF WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION: HULK HOGAN
WWF WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS: ADRIAN ADONIS AND DICK MURDOCH
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPION: TITO SANTANA

Wrestlers: Adrian Adonis, Dick Murdoch, Hulk Hogan, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, Tito Santana
Managers:

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WORLD WRESTLING COUNCIL
PROMOTER:
PROMOTING: THE CARIBBEAN INCLUDING THE BAHAMAS
ANNOUNCERS: HECTOR MOYANO, HUGO SAVINOVICH
REFEREES:

UNIVERSAL HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION: CARLOS COLON
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS: SUPER MEDICOS (JOSE ESTRADA SR. AND JOSE ESTRADA JR.)
CARIBBEAN CHAMPION: ABDULLAH THE BUTCHER
PUERTO RICAN CHAMPION: INVADER I

Wrestlers: Abdullah The Butcher, Carlos Colon, Invader I, Jose Estrada Sr., Jose Estrada Jr.,
Managers:

[thecommish]

I'm looking forward to it!

[Captain Charisma]

What if we are only looking to be an Outlaw promotion/Sat? I wouldn't mind being part of the draft, but would ask to be the last pick in each round. Or I can just wait and pick up like 4 or 5 buildings around 1 city, or be like my old Power Pro Wrestling Indy where I had Hattiesburg, MS as my base of operations. Stay a Sat, essentially with trading rights so I don't end up carrying a guy that could be of better use to someone who is playing this one primarily?

[tlyne]

I am excited too! Now I get to research 1985.

[Kimmel]

Sept 1, 2013 21:08:00 GMT Captain Charisma said:

What if we are only looking to be an Outlaw promotion/Sat? I wouldn't mind being part of the draft, but would ask to be the last pick in each round. Or I can just wait and pick up like 4 or 5 buildings around 1 city, or be like my old Power Pro Wrestling Indy where I had Hattiesburg, MS as my base of operations. Stay a Sat, essentially with trading rights so I don't end up carrying a guy that could be of better use to someone who is playing this one primarily?

You can do Indy stuff just like WrestleWARS! Just book Free Agents for shows when you want to do one

[Captain Charisma]

Very cool bud! It's awesome to have both era's available in the same spot like that. Judging by the preset rosters you are doing 1984/85 as the starting point here?

Starkville, MS will be getting it's best local wrestling of all-time

How many promoters we got signed on for this one so far? I see Justin, BigT, and assume Kimmel is doing one here. I saw PPK and Shaq have joined the board (what's up fella's, its Jeff/Captain Charisma, long time no see!) y'all going to book Territories or Wrestlewars? 

[tlyne]

I wasn't around for the Wrestle Wars draft. Do we draft territories and wrestlers at the same time, and are non wrestlers drafted seperately?

[Kimmel]

The first 10 rounds of the draft will be held on Sept 16th, the first round will be territories, each promoter will draft a territory and will get the 5 wrestlers listed with it. After the first round we'll start drafting wrestlers, announcers, office staff, etc. They will all be in the big pot, we'll do several rounds each night until the rosters are filled.

Rosters will consist of 26 wrestlers, 4 managers, 1 President/commissioner, play by play announcer, color commentator, 3 referees, ring announcer, backstage interviewer and 2 other front office staff members if you want them.


A UPL of 13 wrestlers and 2 managers will be kept updated on the roster thread. Parity drafts will be held every January, April, July and October, with the January Draft also being a rookie draft. Parity Drafts will be 2 rounds, with each promotion being able to lose 2 wrestlers, the January Draft will be 3 rounds to include the rookies.

[Chitohausen]

Sept 2, 2013 3:16:12 GMT Captain Charisma said:

How many promoters we got signed on for this one so far? I see Justin, BigT, and assume Kimmel is doing one here. I saw PPK and Shaq have joined the board (what's up fella's, its Jeff/Captain Charisma, long time no see!) y'all going to book Territories or Wrestlewars? 

I'm hoping to be a part of it as well, assuming there is room for me.

[Kimmel]

Promoters signed up for Territory Throwdown:

El Topo
Sniper Niles
Midnight Grigsby
Tlyne
Chito K McMahon
Commish
Shaq
PPK
Jack Knight
Kimmel

[grigs]

Is this like wrestling and stuff?

[thecommish]

Sept 2, 2013 13:03:53 GMT grigs said:

Is this like wrestling and stuff?

Yep - and I've got dibs on Loch Ness (Giant Haystacks)!

[grigs]

Sept 2, 2013 14:37:51 GMT thecommish said:

Sept 2, 2013 13:03:53 GMT grigs said:

Is this like wrestling and stuff?

Yep - and I've got dibs on Loch Ness (Giant Haystacks)!

Who cares? As long as I get BIG DADDY! Sing it now.....
We shall not be, we shall not be moved
We shall not be, we shall not be moved

[grigs]

Sept 2, 2013 12:42:28 GMT Kimmel said:

Promoters signed up for Territory Throwdown:

El Topo
Sniper Niles
Midnight Grigsby
Tlyne
Chito K McMahon
Commish
Shaq
PPK
Jack Knight
Kimmel

Lock up yer daughters and yer medicine cabinets!

[Captain Charisma]

Fuck it, I'm all the way in

[tlyne]

When are we determing draft order? It might be nice to know soon, as it will give us an idea of which territory we may get, thus helping us with our draft research. Just a thought.

[Kimmel]

I'll get the order set in the next couple of days, trying to finish up the free agents list now

[tlyne]

Sounds great. I know that initial draft list is a huge undertaking.

[Kimmel]

I should be able to have that up on Thursday, may not have all the wrestlers names as links like we do in WrestleWARS yet.

I may also be shuffling a couple of the promotions available, gotta do a little more research. Also we have 11 people signed up, if you guys know of one other person that might work with the group we have, please let me know and we can see about adding them to the party.

[tlyne]

I know that Tomko was still hanging on in Vancouver in 1985, and Lia Miavia was still active in Hawai'i.

[Captain Charisma]

Not sure if they were in Knoxville or Bama at the time but The Fullers/Goldens had a promotion in 84. What about Poffo, Savoldi, and Mulligan? In Flair's book I think it was 83/84 where he went in with Blackjack to buy the Knoxville territory.

[Chitohausen]

Sept 3, 2013 20:27:42 GMT Captain Charisma said:

In Flair's book I think it was 83/84 where he went in with Blackjack to buy the Knoxville territory.

I was thinking it was more like 80 / 81, but I don't think it lasted long.  Fuller and Golden were running what used to be the southern end of SECW (Alabama, Mississippi, Fla panhandle) in 84 / 85, but I don't think they moved back to Knoxville until around 86.

[grigs]

There's always Puerto Rico, Japan, and Mexico.

[tlyne]

The Flair/Mulligan Knoxville group was in the early 80's. Barry Windham was doing the BJM Jr. Role at that time. I used to have a VHS of some of it, but I have no idea what happened to it.

[tlyne]

When was the Southeast group with Terry Gordy and Nelson Royal with his daughter as his valet? I think it was later, 1986, or so.