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Post by Kimmel on Sept 3, 2013 20:51:01 GMT
When was the Southeast group with Terry Gordy and Nelson Royal with his daughter as his valet? I thin it was later, 1986, or so. That was later than 86, closer to 88 I think, I went to a bunch of Nelson's show in NC |
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Post by tlyne on Sept 3, 2013 20:53:38 GMT
OK, that sounds right. Another tape that disappeared.
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Post by tlyne on Sept 3, 2013 21:02:06 GMT
The other idea might be tp split Florida, Georgia and Alabama into two, or three groups. Florida and Southeast/Continental were still running and Ole's group ran for a while arounf this time.
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Post by Kimmel on Sept 3, 2013 21:07:02 GMT
I think I am going to do that with Florida, split it off on it's own. I always forget how long they ran even after MACW started taking over, Georgia I think we will just fold into MACW/NWA and split Continental off on it's own. Another question is, ate the two Canadian promotions worth keeping around, is anyone even interested in them? I can see taking IWA and expanding it to include Michigan like Snipers old Can Am promotion in the WCFL did.
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Post by tlyne on Sept 3, 2013 21:14:37 GMT
Florida ran into 1987, I think. You had Mulligan, Barry and Kendall, and Muta came in as the Black Ninja. Personally, I'd take Montreal before I took Indianapolis, or Kansas City. I would think someone would take Stampede.
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Post by Chitohausen on Sept 3, 2013 21:17:23 GMT
I don't know about anyone else, but I wasn't planning on running either of the Canadian promotions, unless I end up with the last pick, and they're the only ones left.
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Post by tlyne on Sept 3, 2013 21:24:20 GMT
My opinion, if you're going to drop any promotion, I'd drop the WWA. It really was on life support at this point.
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Post by Kimmel on Sept 3, 2013 21:28:26 GMT
I think what we'll do is have the Territory Draft a couple of days earlier, then whatever promotion doesn't get picked I'll close down and fold the wrestlers into the FA pool, sound good?
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Post by tlyne on Sept 3, 2013 21:29:51 GMT
+1 for that idea.
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Post by Chitohausen on Sept 3, 2013 21:33:04 GMT
I like that idea.
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Post by thecommish on Sept 3, 2013 21:37:14 GMT
If worse came to worse with my own draft hopes, I'd definitely consider IW or Stampede.
I also like your idea of holding the territory draft a little earlier, Kimmel.
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Post by Captain Charisma on Sept 3, 2013 21:37:40 GMT
Agreed on Indianapolis, but the positive about Central States is you get St. Louis, Harley Race, and no real life territory to follow past like 85, right? Pro-Florida has Tom's list, Bruiser Brody and Luger were on top in 86. Sullivan was in and out, he was all over the Southeast from 84-87, so I'm not sure you want to tie up any of those guys to Florida. Continental get's like Adrian Street, Bullet Bob, Jody Hamilton, Jimmy Golden and Robert Fuller? That's a solid top-5, could do Brad Armstrong in place of Street if Adrian is better served in the draft.
Georgia, Carolina's, Virginia's for Mid-Atlantic. Florida get's it's own promotion. Continental be all of Alabama, Meridian/East MS, and they also had Knoxville at this point? Jackson/Biloxi go to Mid-South, Tupelo was part of Memphis. You splitting Arkansas up?
That's about the extent of my help without really digging into my tapes. The latest stuff I have of Georgia as it's own promotion is 83, but we know Black Monday was in 84, so it was definitely part of Mid-Atlantic by our starting point here.
What about Joe Blanchard's Southwest Championship Wrestling that was on USA? Was it 85 when they had Adonis as their World Champ right? Or Amarillo/West Texas?
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Post by Chitohausen on Sept 3, 2013 21:42:11 GMT
Southwest was on USA in '83, but I think by '85 they were Texas All-Star, or something like that. Amarillo was closed down around, IIRC, '81 or so?
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Post by Chitohausen on Sept 3, 2013 21:48:07 GMT
It looks like the following were represented at the 1984 NWA convention:
Kansas City
St. Louis
K.E. Promotions in Vancouver (with Gene Kiniski listed as the representative at the convention. I'm thinking this is Tomko's promotion, just before he was booted from the NWA in '85)
Stampede
New Japan
All Japan
Honolulu
Macon, GA
Puerto Rico
JCP
Portland
Southeastern (Alabama)
Florida
Dallas
Mexico
New Zealand
Dominican Republic
WCW (Australia)
How accurate that is, I don't know, but that looks like the cities/promotions that were a part of the NWA in 1984.
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Post by tlyne on Sept 3, 2013 23:14:44 GMT
Is Macon Ole's group?
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Post by thecommish on Sept 3, 2013 23:24:28 GMT
Florida ran into 1987, I think. You had Mulligan, Barry and Kendall, and Muta came in as the Black Ninja. Personally, I'd take Montreal before I took Indianapolis, or Kansas City. I would think someone would take Stampede. I think what happened was that Crockett promised to the buy the territory in late 86 - and thus you had the Horsemen (minus Flair), Jimmy Valiant and others on Florida TV for a little while. But apparently Crockett never actually paid for the buyout so they eventually left, and then you had the era where Steve Keirn hosted and the major program was a babyface Kevin Sullivan and Mike Rotunda against the Funks. |
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Post by grigs on Sept 3, 2013 23:38:35 GMT
Macon had it's own TV and ran some of it's own angles, but as I understand it, they used the guys we saw on TBS. |
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Post by thecommish on Sept 3, 2013 23:43:24 GMT
Macon had it's own TV and ran some of it's own angles, but as I understand it, they used the guys we saw on TBS. I really wish that some of that footage would show up on YouTube. The Knoxville/Macon and Montreal areas are sadly hugely underrepresented on YouTube. Especially Montreal. A lot of the footage of the classic Martel/Bravo Quebec City vs. Montreal feud briefly was on YouTube a few years ago, but was quickly pulled down and as far as I've seen hasn't popped back up. |
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Post by tlyne on Sept 3, 2013 23:45:33 GMT
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Post by Chitohausen on Sept 4, 2013 0:32:40 GMT
I forgot to list GCW, Ole was at the '84 NWA convention as well. Macon had Fred Ward listed as the representative at the convention. I think it was basically a part of GCW, but as Grigs said, it had it's own TV and storylines. |
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Post by Kimmel on Sept 4, 2013 10:44:54 GMT
With our old buddy Badstreet Fields signing up and returning to the fold, and becoming the 12th member of our little band, I am adding The World Wrestling Council to the draft.
Man it's too bad Brix Thronton and Irish Whip Mark2 vanished from the internet.
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Post by tlyne on Sept 4, 2013 12:25:32 GMT
Great to have Badstreet with us. He always did very good work. I do wonder what happened to Brix and Irish. Brix was my AWA guru when I had that group.
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Post by Chitohausen on Sept 4, 2013 12:58:57 GMT
I wish Brix would come back. I got started in fantasy wrestling as a secondary promoter for him in the old Intercontinental promotion in the WCFL. He was a good dude, and I wish he'd get back into this.
It's good to see Badstreet Fields back, I always enjoyed his work in the other leagues.
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Post by Kimmel on Sept 4, 2013 13:47:22 GMT
Do you guys want to draft announcers, presidents, referees etc? Or do you want me to just assign them to the promotions?
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Post by Chitohausen on Sept 4, 2013 14:01:18 GMT
I'm OK with those types of positions just being assigned to the promotion.
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Working on it now.